In addition to congratulating the lawyers, we need to also congratulate the members of the public, including parents, who did not give up during this entire 7+ year saga... It is THEY who kept this going, despite all the odds, and pushback from the Feds. If THEY hadn't started this, and kept it going, there would not be this win. Thank you, ALL of you, who sacrificed time, effort, and time with your kids, to make this happen!!! We are grateful!
I am grateful to live in a place where we have wonderful spring water flowing down from Mt. Shasta. Completely not fluoridated - ever !! Also, not chlorinated
I only drink Crystal Geyser bottled water, which as you probably know, comes from there. It's getting harder to find lately, with many stores only carrying "purified" tap water or water owned by Pepsi or Coca-Cola, which I won't buy on principle.
Crystal Geyser is owned by a Japanese company, Otsuka Pharmaceutical’s. Their water absolutely does not come from here. We stopped that plant dead in its tracks!! They have a plant in Olancha, CA and wanted to bring a plant here and we would have none of it. They also had a plant in Calistoga but that closed after taking all the water available. They have plants in NY, NH They pollute everything they touch. I refuse to buy it. We fought hard for 4 years to keep them out of here.
Am I ever glad that at least SOME parents signed a note denying permission for their children to rinse their mouth with fluoride. Teachers, had to supervise while students went through the same routine once a week.
Here is a quote from Dr. Dean Burk biochemist founder of biotin and former chief chemist at the national Cancer Institute of health: “ in point of fact, fluoride causes more human cancer deaths than any other chemical. When you have power you don’t have to tell the truth that’s a rule that’s been working in this world for generations. There are a great mini people who don’t tell the truth when they are in power in administrative positions. Fluoride amounts to public murder on a grand scale.
it is some of the most conclusive scientific and biological evidence that I have come across in my 50 years in the field of cancer research “
I suppose they have been censoring the truth. (US government the major corporations and the powerful elite) since before World War II. Everything that has transpired from our founding to now was expected and wrote about by the men who gave us a form of government never before!!!!!
So ask yourself how could they do that? I can tell you they weren’t geniuses with never before intelligence. They were people who had enough courage to tell the truth!!!
Dr. Pain - I'm confused after reading your "Flouried NTP Report is Fluff" post, mainly because I have zero medical background and your writing style/language is difficult for a layperson like me to understand. Are you poo-pooing/debunking the NTP report and therefore Aaron Siri's article about the dangers of fluoride to children? Or do you have problems with the NTP report, yet agree with Siri's and Judge Chen's conclusions?
Thank you Dr. I appreciate your passion for getting the truth out. It is mind boggling to me the arrogance and absolute entrenched attitude of government "officials" even in the face of evidence that damages children. May they all rot in hell. Cheers from the Pacific Northwest, USA.
Just another example of: "They knew, and they obfuscated and they maintained the hazardous position. And they knew it harmed us and our children. They knew." That tells you everything you need to know about the "health-safety" institutions of our Federal Government. But, it's actually worse than that implies: Could it possibly be intentional?
I think many at the top knew, and thought it was a great idea to dumb down the populace. They would be easier to control, would be less likely to register how their predatorial class was slowly enslaving them with debt, and a loss of real representation in the Republic.
Edward Bernays, was the progenitor of modern propaganda in the beginning of the 20th century. He was hired by the Aluminum industry to stop the inevitable high regulatory costs of dealing with their most toxic wastes associated with smelting Aluminum. Bernays had a bunch of bogus studies saying it prevented cavities, and was able to get it recommended to be put into the water.
The fact that people were drinking it, provided a new market for what was going to be heavily regulated waste product. It also prevented that legislation because it was hard to argue Fluoride was toxic when lots of people were drinking it every day.
Bernays was a genius manipulator, had no loyalty to the average person. Only the Uber wealthy were a part of his club, or visa versa. They are all eugenicists through and the through.
So, I think it's likely they knew.
I hope the madness ends soon, however. It's gone on for too long.
what a marvellous solution; you have a toxic substance; (the washings from the smoke stacks of fertiliser works;) you need to pay a regional authority (council) to dispose of it; it is a drag; a burden on you at your fertiliser works;
you twist it all around; persuade the council it is "good":
they pay you and buy the toxic substance from you; and with great glee, you dump it in the local town reservoir: where better to dispose of a toxic substance?
A great idea for anyone who is concerned about this issue to write to the water department manager in their local town, and also at the state level and provide the background information from the National Toxicology Program and demand that they immediately get the poison removed from the public water supplies. I will be doing this for a definite. During the height of the covid drama in 2021, cities and towns across Massachusetts were quietly adding fluoride to the public water supplies; this information is all on public record at the state level. The more attention that is given to the problem, the better.
Yeah; there was zero media coverage about this. I only found out by accident, because my 21 year old daughter had just gotten her own apartment uptown (we're all here on Hampshire county in western mass) and she called me because she was getting hives all over her body after taking showers....and she said, "mom, are you SURE that our town doesn't put fluoride in the water??" She's always been very sensitive to it, which makes her a great fluoride detector. I went onto Mass.gov and did a search.....voila! Before and after 2021 pdf charts in there that showed a massive initiative to convert nearly every city and town across the state onto the poison train. I was floored. People should research their own states and see if something similar happened while all the covid distractions were happening.
do they not need legislative approval? Friends in NZ tell us they forced fluoridation there on a number of regions at the same time: colluding and working together?
Niall Ferguson comparing things to the failing soviet union; a ruling elite; that so many countries have; ruling over the plebs; who increasingly see through what is being done to them.
This is another blow to ‘The Science’. For decades, it was common practice for establishment sources to demonize ‘conspiracy theorists’ as being against ‘The Science’. They would link together causes that their scientists had determined to be wackadoodle. One of these causes was the cry to get poisonous fluoride out of our drinking water. Vaccinations was another subject that closed to debate. I remember as a child growing up in the 1950’s my parents listened to Dr. Carlton Fredericks popular radio show. He was demonized for his campaign against fluoridation. The Science has been a token of oppression for many decades. We need to be reminded that Science is a Method. It is not a Religion.
Great news! My son has mild discoloration on his teeth from too much fluoride. Our dentist believes fluoride is safe and uses it in his practice. I wasn’t aware there was an issue with fluoride till recently. It would be great if there is a way to distribute this information to dental practices so they understand the risk.
No kidding. We've known consuming fluoride even in dentally-determined "optimal" doses is harmful to bodies and bones since the 1920s, and that it is harmful to brains (especially baby brains) since the 1990s, but the profitable tooth-fairy tale persisted. Not that you can even control "dose" when you use the water supplies to deliver the stuff.
- ”In 1991, the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) in the USA measured fluoride levels and found that where water is fluoridated between 0.7 and 1.2 ppm overall fluoride, total fluoride intake for adults was between 1.58 and 6.6 mg per day while for children it was between 0.9 and 3.6 mg per day and that there was at least a sixfold variation just from water consumption alone." - Peckham & Awofeso (2014) quoting “Review of Fluoride: Benefits & Risks” (1991)
It would be relatively easy to install a fluoride filter on each of your faucets. In most cases all you need is an adjustable wrench. I've installed a bunch.
Lots of different kinds. Home Depot has one that filters out fluoride, chlorine, bacteria, toxic chemicals etc. it's like $130. There are a lot of other brands too. There are some that you simply screw onto your shower head pipe, and screw the shower head onto the other end of the filter. It's so nice to have no chlorine in the shower. It turns into a vapor that you breath in. Your lungs will thank you when you get one of those. I can't remember the brand, but now that you know they exist, you'll find one.
In addition to congratulating the lawyers, we need to also congratulate the members of the public, including parents, who did not give up during this entire 7+ year saga... It is THEY who kept this going, despite all the odds, and pushback from the Feds. If THEY hadn't started this, and kept it going, there would not be this win. Thank you, ALL of you, who sacrificed time, effort, and time with your kids, to make this happen!!! We are grateful!
I am grateful to live in a place where we have wonderful spring water flowing down from Mt. Shasta. Completely not fluoridated - ever !! Also, not chlorinated
I only drink Crystal Geyser bottled water, which as you probably know, comes from there. It's getting harder to find lately, with many stores only carrying "purified" tap water or water owned by Pepsi or Coca-Cola, which I won't buy on principle.
Crystal Geyser is owned by a Japanese company, Otsuka Pharmaceutical’s. Their water absolutely does not come from here. We stopped that plant dead in its tracks!! They have a plant in Olancha, CA and wanted to bring a plant here and we would have none of it. They also had a plant in Calistoga but that closed after taking all the water available. They have plants in NY, NH They pollute everything they touch. I refuse to buy it. We fought hard for 4 years to keep them out of here.
Very disappointing to hear that. I completely bought their marketing. 😞
lucky old you
Am I ever glad that at least SOME parents signed a note denying permission for their children to rinse their mouth with fluoride. Teachers, had to supervise while students went through the same routine once a week.
You might like
https://geoffpain.substack.com/p/fluoride-ntp-report-is-fluff
Here is a quote from Dr. Dean Burk biochemist founder of biotin and former chief chemist at the national Cancer Institute of health: “ in point of fact, fluoride causes more human cancer deaths than any other chemical. When you have power you don’t have to tell the truth that’s a rule that’s been working in this world for generations. There are a great mini people who don’t tell the truth when they are in power in administrative positions. Fluoride amounts to public murder on a grand scale.
it is some of the most conclusive scientific and biological evidence that I have come across in my 50 years in the field of cancer research “
I suppose they have been censoring the truth. (US government the major corporations and the powerful elite) since before World War II. Everything that has transpired from our founding to now was expected and wrote about by the men who gave us a form of government never before!!!!!
So ask yourself how could they do that? I can tell you they weren’t geniuses with never before intelligence. They were people who had enough courage to tell the truth!!!
Dr. Pain - I'm confused after reading your "Flouried NTP Report is Fluff" post, mainly because I have zero medical background and your writing style/language is difficult for a layperson like me to understand. Are you poo-pooing/debunking the NTP report and therefore Aaron Siri's article about the dangers of fluoride to children? Or do you have problems with the NTP report, yet agree with Siri's and Judge Chen's conclusions?
I'm just trying to make sense of all this.
When I joined Twitter in 2009 I chose the handle @FluoridePoison
https://geoffpain.substack.com/p/bega-valley-shire-council-ignores
Thank you Dr. I appreciate your passion for getting the truth out. It is mind boggling to me the arrogance and absolute entrenched attitude of government "officials" even in the face of evidence that damages children. May they all rot in hell. Cheers from the Pacific Northwest, USA.
Interesting! Thank you for the link.
Just another example of: "They knew, and they obfuscated and they maintained the hazardous position. And they knew it harmed us and our children. They knew." That tells you everything you need to know about the "health-safety" institutions of our Federal Government. But, it's actually worse than that implies: Could it possibly be intentional?
I think many at the top knew, and thought it was a great idea to dumb down the populace. They would be easier to control, would be less likely to register how their predatorial class was slowly enslaving them with debt, and a loss of real representation in the Republic.
Edward Bernays, was the progenitor of modern propaganda in the beginning of the 20th century. He was hired by the Aluminum industry to stop the inevitable high regulatory costs of dealing with their most toxic wastes associated with smelting Aluminum. Bernays had a bunch of bogus studies saying it prevented cavities, and was able to get it recommended to be put into the water.
The fact that people were drinking it, provided a new market for what was going to be heavily regulated waste product. It also prevented that legislation because it was hard to argue Fluoride was toxic when lots of people were drinking it every day.
Bernays was a genius manipulator, had no loyalty to the average person. Only the Uber wealthy were a part of his club, or visa versa. They are all eugenicists through and the through.
So, I think it's likely they knew.
I hope the madness ends soon, however. It's gone on for too long.
well said;
what a marvellous solution; you have a toxic substance; (the washings from the smoke stacks of fertiliser works;) you need to pay a regional authority (council) to dispose of it; it is a drag; a burden on you at your fertiliser works;
you twist it all around; persuade the council it is "good":
they pay you and buy the toxic substance from you; and with great glee, you dump it in the local town reservoir: where better to dispose of a toxic substance?
A great idea for anyone who is concerned about this issue to write to the water department manager in their local town, and also at the state level and provide the background information from the National Toxicology Program and demand that they immediately get the poison removed from the public water supplies. I will be doing this for a definite. During the height of the covid drama in 2021, cities and towns across Massachusetts were quietly adding fluoride to the public water supplies; this information is all on public record at the state level. The more attention that is given to the problem, the better.
"During the height of the covid drama in 2021, cities and towns across Massachusetts were quietly adding fluoride to the public water supplies; "
terrible; what people could get away with, in those mad times ...
Yeah; there was zero media coverage about this. I only found out by accident, because my 21 year old daughter had just gotten her own apartment uptown (we're all here on Hampshire county in western mass) and she called me because she was getting hives all over her body after taking showers....and she said, "mom, are you SURE that our town doesn't put fluoride in the water??" She's always been very sensitive to it, which makes her a great fluoride detector. I went onto Mass.gov and did a search.....voila! Before and after 2021 pdf charts in there that showed a massive initiative to convert nearly every city and town across the state onto the poison train. I was floored. People should research their own states and see if something similar happened while all the covid distractions were happening.
do they not need legislative approval? Friends in NZ tell us they forced fluoridation there on a number of regions at the same time: colluding and working together?
Probably, and no doubt they got it easily with the bought-and-paid-for parasites pretending to represent "the people".
sounds like the way the world plays out
saw this video last night https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUJMyTJ9gyI
very articulate; very clear;
Niall Ferguson comparing things to the failing soviet union; a ruling elite; that so many countries have; ruling over the plebs; who increasingly see through what is being done to them.
Great job, Siri & Glimstad!
This is another blow to ‘The Science’. For decades, it was common practice for establishment sources to demonize ‘conspiracy theorists’ as being against ‘The Science’. They would link together causes that their scientists had determined to be wackadoodle. One of these causes was the cry to get poisonous fluoride out of our drinking water. Vaccinations was another subject that closed to debate. I remember as a child growing up in the 1950’s my parents listened to Dr. Carlton Fredericks popular radio show. He was demonized for his campaign against fluoridation. The Science has been a token of oppression for many decades. We need to be reminded that Science is a Method. It is not a Religion.
"Science is a Method. It is not a Religion." -- Love that!
Great news! My son has mild discoloration on his teeth from too much fluoride. Our dentist believes fluoride is safe and uses it in his practice. I wasn’t aware there was an issue with fluoride till recently. It would be great if there is a way to distribute this information to dental practices so they understand the risk.
Regular people like us could tell them.
They've been poisoning us for nearly a century. That's 5 generations poisoned. Makes sense now why the Rockefellers never drank tap water.
Thank you, thank you, thank you to all the
Warriors attorneys in the victory 🙏
Congratulations! Thank you for the amazing work you do!
Congratulation on your great success!
You’re a miracle worker, from fluoride to vaccine's you’ve saved soooo many.
Bless you, Mr Siri…such a GREAT man!
💝🙏🏻
No kidding. We've known consuming fluoride even in dentally-determined "optimal" doses is harmful to bodies and bones since the 1920s, and that it is harmful to brains (especially baby brains) since the 1990s, but the profitable tooth-fairy tale persisted. Not that you can even control "dose" when you use the water supplies to deliver the stuff.
- ”In 1991, the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) in the USA measured fluoride levels and found that where water is fluoridated between 0.7 and 1.2 ppm overall fluoride, total fluoride intake for adults was between 1.58 and 6.6 mg per day while for children it was between 0.9 and 3.6 mg per day and that there was at least a sixfold variation just from water consumption alone." - Peckham & Awofeso (2014) quoting “Review of Fluoride: Benefits & Risks” (1991)
It would be relatively easy to install a fluoride filter on each of your faucets. In most cases all you need is an adjustable wrench. I've installed a bunch.
Lots of different kinds. Home Depot has one that filters out fluoride, chlorine, bacteria, toxic chemicals etc. it's like $130. There are a lot of other brands too. There are some that you simply screw onto your shower head pipe, and screw the shower head onto the other end of the filter. It's so nice to have no chlorine in the shower. It turns into a vapor that you breath in. Your lungs will thank you when you get one of those. I can't remember the brand, but now that you know they exist, you'll find one.
Hope this tidbit helps.