I think it's important to remember that while placebos are critical in determining the safety profile of a vaccine or medical intervention. Making solely that change in the current system would still not be considered scientifically testing it for safety in my opinion. The current process has Pfizer in charge of conducting its own clinical trials in secret and then cherry picking the data that supports their product with a financial conflict of interest. They've been convicted criminally in court of scientific fraud. We must remember it's a long road to getting an uncorrupted system. Using placebos is just a small piece of the puzzle
Right? Redirecting people's focus to the fact that the trials didn't all use a real placebo is, at best, just not that strong of an argument, and it could easily be construed to suggest that if they did use real placebos, everything would be fine, or even that all the coercion and mandates could somehow be justified. Not good. In my opinion the problems are run deeper, are so much bigger and so much more fundamental. There is no justifying the 86 Act or the childhood schedule even existing at all, regardless of any trials. We need to do away with all notions of "the science" somehow magically granting a small number of lunatics the right to rule over everyone, which is really what it always comes down to one way or another.
No one is stating that the lack of placebo controlled studies is the only issue. No one is redirecting. It is ONE of MANY. the length and clearly the cherry-picking are all issues. the retrospective studies are also issues as well as the use of VAERS as after market surveillance. the whole process is deplorable.
I listened to a podcast w. Assem Malhotra who while recognizing the deceit of Pharma with Statins and Covid jabs still believes in Childhood vaccines. Crazy!
Yep, you'd think with his personal experience and all the people he's met in his world tours that his brain would be engaged? All those international flights - time to read Dissolving Illusions and Turtles All the Way Down as starters. Has he been on the Highwire yet? It's bizarre tbh and I wouldn't trust anything he says, imo. 🙏
I listened to that while cooking yesterday and when I heard him say the jabs should have been for the older compromised immune systems, I wanted to vomit. What a complete fraud this man is and to think his elderly dad died from this poison! He is FOS. Anyone who says that…I’m done with the idiots!
I can't stand when those that know the jabs are unsafe say "it may have been appropriate for some" equivocation. It is not safe for anyone and they know it.
Exactly!👏👏To me, thats how you can tell he would sacrifice his own family before losing it all! Screw this evil doctor for saying this! I’ll never listened to this young idiot again!
You bring startling news to my attention often Geoff.
I had a 30 second look at the Qu Biologics website. Seem to be developing vaccines for every imaginable condition under the sun. More drugs on the premise of "let's inject healthy people"! I thought most cancers and chronic disease could be prevented and/or treated through 'lifestyle measures'. Measures that are considered 'extreme' by mainstream society's average lifestyle which is terribly unhealthy.
People pretending to opposed COVID jabs while promoting childhood vax... more 'limited hangouts' I guess like the recent Stanley Plotkin article.
These idiots much preferred the assertion "Safe and Effective"
And it worked exactly as hoped, up till now. The narrative has exploded because Main Stream News has tanked and "bloggers" individuals have supassed them. That is a very very good thing.
The use of toxic adjuvants like AAHS and thimerosal as placebos in vaccine trials can be considered legally deceptive and potentially fraudulent. Placebos are traditionally inert substances meant to provide a control to objectively assess safety and efficacy. Using toxic substances undermines this goal, misleadingly elevating the safety profile of the vaccine. This practice can distort trial results and obscure the true risk-to-benefit ratio of the vaccine, potentially violating legal standards for ethical medical research and patient safety. Such actions might be construed as fraudulent under laws governing medical trials and consumer protection, as they misrepresent the product's safety, leading to potential harm for trial participants and future recipients.
Just looked at the 1986 law U.S. on childhood vaccines. This indemnified companies from injury from their product,but put responsibility to compensate injured upon the gov. thru VAERS. This system can be manipulated quite easily. And the indemnity,somehow relieves vaccine makers from all the warnings we see on drugs our docs perscribe for us. Lots wrong with all this. But we know now. With hope those who are fighting back,can help make corrections needed.
Ronald Reagan. He asked them to make vax safe. They're also supposed to have produced the 'science' research but never have. Check out CHD and NVIC for details plus ICAN Del Bigtree of course
"Provides that a manufacturer may be held liable where: (1) such manufacturer engaged in the fraudulent or intentional withholding of information; or (2) such manufacturer failed to exercise due care. Permits punitive damages in such civil actions under certain circumstances."
Parts 1 and 2 are easily provable in court for many vaccines...especially the covid "vaccine". Problem is finding a law firm willing to take the political pressure that will come from such suits.
Wasn't there already a civil case that went to trial and they won, but the precedent was changed albeit fraudulently. It was for the DPT shot and Wyeth was caught showing they could have made it safer via FOIA'd emails. the courts are forever NOT in our favor.
be aware the pandemic treaty is not dead in the water as many believe in fact its coming back much sooner than you think check out the james roguski substack for the details
Yep, it’s part of the pyramid scheme. Because every new vaccine made available at all is so critical babies will DIE without it and it’s “unethical” not to give whatever is already available as the control for the new versions being tested. They pretend that whatever is being given as a control is already “proven” safe, so it will somehow provide a control for the experimental/new product. In reality it does the exact opposite and masks harms by minimizing any differences between adverse reactions between the experimental group and the control group.
In San Mateo jail, redwood City, where I eventually beat that case, they had me held in solitary isolation until I agreed to their TB prick, not quite a needle....
Forced and coerced injextion....2007.
That jail was vacation jail from the mostly six months of time in SF killafornia jail for running for mayor against Gruesome Gavin Gruesome Newsom.
ScKamala kamaltoe took away my Grasshopper taxicab business forevermore, 2007.
Gavin said care not cash.
I said homes not jails.
Now Gruesome Gavin Gruesome Newsom loves to take away people's encampments and render us further bereft of homes....sanctioned by th scrotus, the us supreme con con court
They ruled public property can be privately held away from the homeless by the government of fascists and Nazie peloskie peoples
None of the childhood vaccine safety trials used an inert placebo. Vaccine trials used insufficient participant numbers to detect serious side effects. The duration of vaccine trials were too short to detect long-term, let alone medium-term, health effects. Claims of ‘vaccine safety’ are therefore based on fraud, lies and propaganda!
Don't forget that the placebos themselves aren't really placebos -- they are previous versions of vaccines that themselves had no true placebos either.
I think it's important to remember that while placebos are critical in determining the safety profile of a vaccine or medical intervention. Making solely that change in the current system would still not be considered scientifically testing it for safety in my opinion. The current process has Pfizer in charge of conducting its own clinical trials in secret and then cherry picking the data that supports their product with a financial conflict of interest. They've been convicted criminally in court of scientific fraud. We must remember it's a long road to getting an uncorrupted system. Using placebos is just a small piece of the puzzle
Right? Redirecting people's focus to the fact that the trials didn't all use a real placebo is, at best, just not that strong of an argument, and it could easily be construed to suggest that if they did use real placebos, everything would be fine, or even that all the coercion and mandates could somehow be justified. Not good. In my opinion the problems are run deeper, are so much bigger and so much more fundamental. There is no justifying the 86 Act or the childhood schedule even existing at all, regardless of any trials. We need to do away with all notions of "the science" somehow magically granting a small number of lunatics the right to rule over everyone, which is really what it always comes down to one way or another.
No one is stating that the lack of placebo controlled studies is the only issue. No one is redirecting. It is ONE of MANY. the length and clearly the cherry-picking are all issues. the retrospective studies are also issues as well as the use of VAERS as after market surveillance. the whole process is deplorable.
Agreed that the issues are many and the whole thing is bad.
So now we need a list of all who are actively promoting Childhood Jabbing while pretending they are opposed to Covid19 Jabs.
Take note of Qu Biologics plans for jabbing every second day.
I listened to a podcast w. Assem Malhotra who while recognizing the deceit of Pharma with Statins and Covid jabs still believes in Childhood vaccines. Crazy!
Oh, he knows alright - just won’t go there.
Yep, you'd think with his personal experience and all the people he's met in his world tours that his brain would be engaged? All those international flights - time to read Dissolving Illusions and Turtles All the Way Down as starters. Has he been on the Highwire yet? It's bizarre tbh and I wouldn't trust anything he says, imo. 🙏
its a World View issue, and a personal responsibility problem.
I listened to that while cooking yesterday and when I heard him say the jabs should have been for the older compromised immune systems, I wanted to vomit. What a complete fraud this man is and to think his elderly dad died from this poison! He is FOS. Anyone who says that…I’m done with the idiots!
I can't stand when those that know the jabs are unsafe say "it may have been appropriate for some" equivocation. It is not safe for anyone and they know it.
Exactly!👏👏To me, thats how you can tell he would sacrifice his own family before losing it all! Screw this evil doctor for saying this! I’ll never listened to this young idiot again!
I met Aseem when he visited Melbourne
https://geoffpain.substack.com/p/robs-nose-knows-news
You bring startling news to my attention often Geoff.
I had a 30 second look at the Qu Biologics website. Seem to be developing vaccines for every imaginable condition under the sun. More drugs on the premise of "let's inject healthy people"! I thought most cancers and chronic disease could be prevented and/or treated through 'lifestyle measures'. Measures that are considered 'extreme' by mainstream society's average lifestyle which is terribly unhealthy.
People pretending to opposed COVID jabs while promoting childhood vax... more 'limited hangouts' I guess like the recent Stanley Plotkin article.
Yes the Coulson TWC, Zelenko, Unjabbed etc. brands definitely a worry. Dr Drew is on the list.
These idiots much preferred the assertion "Safe and Effective"
And it worked exactly as hoped, up till now. The narrative has exploded because Main Stream News has tanked and "bloggers" individuals have supassed them. That is a very very good thing.
The use of toxic adjuvants like AAHS and thimerosal as placebos in vaccine trials can be considered legally deceptive and potentially fraudulent. Placebos are traditionally inert substances meant to provide a control to objectively assess safety and efficacy. Using toxic substances undermines this goal, misleadingly elevating the safety profile of the vaccine. This practice can distort trial results and obscure the true risk-to-benefit ratio of the vaccine, potentially violating legal standards for ethical medical research and patient safety. Such actions might be construed as fraudulent under laws governing medical trials and consumer protection, as they misrepresent the product's safety, leading to potential harm for trial participants and future recipients.
Even a first year psychology student in college would recognize that the vaccine research is not valid.
To be blunt, you don't need to be at College to reason logic 🙏
Criminal
Just looked at the 1986 law U.S. on childhood vaccines. This indemnified companies from injury from their product,but put responsibility to compensate injured upon the gov. thru VAERS. This system can be manipulated quite easily. And the indemnity,somehow relieves vaccine makers from all the warnings we see on drugs our docs perscribe for us. Lots wrong with all this. But we know now. With hope those who are fighting back,can help make corrections needed.
Ronald Reagan. He asked them to make vax safe. They're also supposed to have produced the 'science' research but never have. Check out CHD and NVIC for details plus ICAN Del Bigtree of course
The indemnification is NOT absolute....
"Provides that a manufacturer may be held liable where: (1) such manufacturer engaged in the fraudulent or intentional withholding of information; or (2) such manufacturer failed to exercise due care. Permits punitive damages in such civil actions under certain circumstances."
Parts 1 and 2 are easily provable in court for many vaccines...especially the covid "vaccine". Problem is finding a law firm willing to take the political pressure that will come from such suits.
Wasn't there already a civil case that went to trial and they won, but the precedent was changed albeit fraudulently. It was for the DPT shot and Wyeth was caught showing they could have made it safer via FOIA'd emails. the courts are forever NOT in our favor.
be aware the pandemic treaty is not dead in the water as many believe in fact its coming back much sooner than you think check out the james roguski substack for the details
Look at UKCitizen, that's where he gets his info 🙏
I have read that for the pretend trials they do carry out for childhood vaccines that the “placebo” is in fact another childhood vaccine .
Yep, it’s part of the pyramid scheme. Because every new vaccine made available at all is so critical babies will DIE without it and it’s “unethical” not to give whatever is already available as the control for the new versions being tested. They pretend that whatever is being given as a control is already “proven” safe, so it will somehow provide a control for the experimental/new product. In reality it does the exact opposite and masks harms by minimizing any differences between adverse reactions between the experimental group and the control group.
Had I known this information 25-30 years ago, I’d never have vaccinated my kids.
In San Mateo jail, redwood City, where I eventually beat that case, they had me held in solitary isolation until I agreed to their TB prick, not quite a needle....
Forced and coerced injextion....2007.
That jail was vacation jail from the mostly six months of time in SF killafornia jail for running for mayor against Gruesome Gavin Gruesome Newsom.
ScKamala kamaltoe took away my Grasshopper taxicab business forevermore, 2007.
Gavin said care not cash.
I said homes not jails.
Now Gruesome Gavin Gruesome Newsom loves to take away people's encampments and render us further bereft of homes....sanctioned by th scrotus, the us supreme con con court
They ruled public property can be privately held away from the homeless by the government of fascists and Nazie peloskie peoples
Wow, so you and Newsome go way back, did you have to fight your court case from jail? Was it some kind of bogus tax fraud case?
Excellent! Thanks. :)
I printed that chart up to bring in to work with me. Maybe it would be useful on triage.
Wall posters, handouts, waiting room reading, staff rooms, rest rooms.... everywhere!
None of the childhood vaccine safety trials used an inert placebo. Vaccine trials used insufficient participant numbers to detect serious side effects. The duration of vaccine trials were too short to detect long-term, let alone medium-term, health effects. Claims of ‘vaccine safety’ are therefore based on fraud, lies and propaganda!
Vaccine Safety Science v Drug Safety Science https://x.com/SaiKate108/status/1807742596200227219
The War On The Child: Battlefront “Failed Schedule”
https://open.substack.com/pub/aaronsiri/p/clinical-trials-of-childhood-vaccines
Don't forget that the placebos themselves aren't really placebos -- they are previous versions of vaccines that themselves had no true placebos either.